Amanda Elizabeth Linder – 1889-1928
Charles E. Talmage – 1884-1945

Birth

Amanda Elizabeth Linder was the first child of Samuel Linder and Maria Eick. She was born on December 31, 1889 in Elmira as recorded in the Ontario Vital Statistics for 1890, #233-958:

     Name:       Elizabeth Amandie [Linder]
     Sex:        Female
     Birthdate:  December 31st 1889
     Father:     Samuel Linder
     Occupation: Laborer
     Mother:     Maria Eick
     Informant:  Samuel Linder,
                 Elmira, Ont
     Accoucheur: L.F. Cline MD
     Registered: Jan 18/[18]90

Marriage

Amanda married Charles E. Talmage, in Milverton where her family was living on November 2, 1907. Details can be found in the 1907 Ontario Vital Statistics, #017-103.

Charles Emanuel Talmage was born in October 1884 on the Isle of Wight in England and came to Canada in 1889.

In the 1921 Canadian census, Amanda is listed as the 'head' and 'married' living in Kitchener with two sons Dewitt and Clifford. The same census reports Charles as a 'lodger' and 'separated' living in Stratford. The marriage had ended. They had three children, a son Carl who was born and died in 1909 and two sons named Dewitt and Clifford.

Death

Amanda died on January 27, 1928. She was known by her middle name of Elizabeth in the Vital Statistics, #034-685. The death notice and an obituary were printed in the K-W Record on Saturday, January 28:

DEATHS TALMAGE -- Jan. 27, at the K-W hospital, Mrs. Charles Talmage, 18 Dan street, aged 39 years.

The Departed ----- Mrs. Charles Talmage     Mrs. Charles Talmage, nee Elizabeth Linder, passed away last night at the K-W hospital in her 40th year after seven weeks' illness. Deceased was a member of St. Andrew's Presbyterian church and had lived for approximately 15 years in this city coming here from Elmira. She is survived by her father, Samuel Linder, Breithaupt street, city, her husband, two sons, Dewitt and Clifford, four brothers, Vernon Linder of Montreal, Theodore of Collingwood, and Samuel and Roland of this city. One sister Denella of Detroit, also survives. The funeral will be held on Monday afternoon at two o'clock from her late residence to Mount Hope cemetery.

• There was no mention made of her husband Charles, now separated.

An inscription on the back of her parents headstone records that Amanda died in 1928. Her obituary says she was buried in the same cemetery but there is no separate marker.

CECIL 1905-1918 CHARLES 1908-1918 CHARLOTTE 1896-1919 AMANDA E. 1889-1928 Mount Hope Cemetery, Kitchener

Charles Emanuel Talmage passed away June 19, 1945 at Westminster Hospital near London. He is buried at Avondale Cemetery beside his second wife, Jane Walker 1889-1967.

Theodore Martin Linder – 1894-1964
Emma Louise Dyce – 1894-1982

Birth

Theodore Martin Linder was born in Elmira on March 29, 1894, the second child of Samuel Linder and Maria Eick. The birth was registered and appears in the Ontario Vital Statistics for 1894, #033-674:

     Name:       Martin Theodore [Linder]
     Sex:        Male
     Birthdate:  March 29/[18]94
     Father:     Samuel Linder
     Occupation: Laborer
     Mother:     Maria Eick
     Informant:  Samuel Linder,
                 Elmira, Ont
     Accoucheur: L.F. Cline MD
     Registered: April 30/[18]94

Marriage

Ted married Emma Louise Dyce in Mount Forest in 1919. The details are found in the Ontario Vital Statistics, #027-077 for 1919:

     Groom:      Theodore Martin Linder
     Age:        Twenty five
     Residence:  Collingwood
     Born:       Elmira
                 Bachelor
     Occupation: Shoemaker
     Religion:   Presbyterian
     Parents:    Samuel Linder,
                 Maria Eick

     Bride:      Emma Louise Dyce
     Age:        Twenty five
     Residence:  Mount Forest
     Born:       Flesherton
                 Spinster
     Occupation: Milliner
     Religion:   Presbyterian
     Parents:    James Dyce,
                 Louisa Heahn [Hehn]

     Place:      Mount Forest
     Date:       24th June 1919
     Witnesses:  Vernon Linder, 183 Ahrens St, Kitchener
                 Anna Martha Hoffman, Milverton, Ont

In 1921 the couple lived in Collingwood with Theodore repairing shoes in his own shop. They later lived in Mount Forest.

Deaths

Theodore died in 1964 followed by Emma in 1982. The couple are buried in Mount Forest Cemetery with Emma's parents.

Charlotte Linder – 1896-1919
Joseph Elliott – 1885-1945

Birth

Born in Elmira on February 22, 1896, Charlotte Linder was the third child of Samuel Linder and Maria Eich. The Ontario Vital Statistics for 1896, #038-667, records:

     Name:       Linder, Charlotte
     Sex:        Female
     Birthdate:  Feb 22/[18]96
     Father:     Samuel Linder
     Occupation: Laborer
     Mother:     Maria Eick
     Informant:  Samuel Linder,
                 Elmira, Ont
     Accoucheur: R. H. Hay MD
     Registered: March 14/[18]96

Marriage

The marriage of Joseph Elliott and Charlotte Linder happened in Toronto on February 10, 1919. The Vital Statistics of 1919, #001-413, have the details:

     Groom:       Joseph Elliott
     Age:         33 years
     Residence:   Toronto
     Born:        Richmond Hill
                  Bachelor
     Occupation:  Express Messenger
     Religion:    Baptist
     Father:      Fred Elliott
     Mother:      Elizabeth Horner

     Bride:       Charlotte Linder
     Age:         22 years
     Residence:   Kitchener
     Born:        Elmira
                  Spinster
     Occupation:  At home
     Religion:    Lutheran
     Father:      Samuel Linder
     Mother:      Maria Eich

     Witness:     Mrs Irene McGillicuddy,
                    123 Northcliffe Dr.
                  Geo G. Gibson,
                    44 Craig St, London, Ont
     At:          Toronto
     Date:        Tenth February 1919
     By:          Gordon M. Holmes,
                    683 Gladstone Ave,
                    Toronto
                  Baptist

Death

Charlotte died just nine months after her marriage of tuberculosis on October 29, 1919. The Vital Statistics, #033-049 of 1919, records the facts.

The News Record printed this obituary on Thursday October 30th and then a revised version the following day without the sentence: "The family has lost one who was a dear wife and mother." There were no children during her short marriage to Joseph Elliott.

OBITUARY ----- MRS. JOSEPH ELLIOTT Owing to an unfortunate error yesterday the reference to the death of Mrs. Joseph Elliot is again given in today's issue.     The sad intelligence is imparted to the citizens to-day of the passing from this life of a highly esteemed resident in the person of Mrs. Joseph Elliott.     The demise of Mrs. Elliott followed an illness of four months and it was not unexpected. Her death occurred at the home of her sister, Mrs. Talmadge, 143 Peter Street.     In the death of Mrs. Elliott a gap which will never be filled has been caused. [The family has lost one who was a dear wife and mother.] Beloved by all who knew her Mrs. Elliott's name will ever be green. The family's loss is keenly felt not only among friends in the Twin City but also in other towns where she formerly resided. In her passing the community has lost a worthy member.     The deceased was born on February 22nd, 1896, and before her marriage was known as Charlotte Linder. She had resided here during the last four years the family removing here from Cobourg.     Left behind to mourn her loss are the bereaved husband and four brothers and two sisters; the latter being Mr. Sam Linder, Toronto; Vernon, Toronto; Theodore, Collingwood; Roland, this city; Miss Nell Lind[n]er, city and Mrs. Talmadge, city.     The funeral will be held at 1.30 o'clock Saturday afternoon from the residence, Peter Street, to Mount Hope Cemetery for interment.

Joseph Elliott was renarried on December 8, 1920 in Barrie to Leonora Lord. Joseph died August 23, 1946 in Toronto and is buried at the Heise Hill Cemetery in Gormley.

Vernon Linder – 1897-1962
Winnifred Margaret Duffy – 1899-1988

Birth

The fourth child of Samuel Linder and Maria Eick was Vernon Linder, who was born in Elmira on November 11, 1905. She was the fifth child of Samuel Linder and Maria Eick.

     Name:       Vernon Linder
     Sex:        Male
     Birthdate:  Nov 5/[18]97
     Father:     Samuel Linder
     Occupation: Spinner
     Mother:     Maria Eick
     Informant:  Samuel Linder
     Accoucheur: H. R. Hay MD
     Registered: Dec 1/[18]97

Vernon was the best man at his brother Ted's wedding in 1919. He was living in Toronto when his older sister Charlotte died later in 1919 and in Montreal, nine years later, when his older sister Amanda died.

On September 17, 1924 Vernon married Winnifred Margaret Duffy in Montreal. The couple had two children, Arnold and Lois. Vernon passed away about 1962 in Montreal and Winnifred some twenty-six years later in 1988.

Donella Minnetta Linder – 1902-1963
Arthur Swinton – 1901-1988

Birth

Donella Minnetta Linder was born in Elmira on February 12, 1902. She was the fifth child of Samuel Linder and Maria Eick.

     Name:       Linder, Donella Minnetta
     Sex:        Female
     Birthdate:  Feb 12/1902
     Father:     Samuel Linder
     Occupation: Finisher
     Mother:     Maria Eick
     Informant:  Samuel Linder,
                 Elmira, Ont
     Accoucheur: J. N. Ratz MD
     Registered: July 2, 1902

The American Social Security Death Index says Arthur Swinton was born on April 15, 1901 and the 1930 US Census reports he was born in Canada.

Marriage

Donella was married to a man named Arthur Swinton on June 29, 1925 in Windsor, Ontario. The US Census of 1930 says that Arthur was 24 years old when he was married and Donella was 23. The couple were living in Detroit in 1930 and had three children: Lenore (age 3 yr, 4m), Raymond (age 1 yr, 11m) and Beverly (just two months). The 1940 US Census has an addition with son Duane Kenneth born on Nov. 12, 1934l

The couple was already living in Detroit when her older sister Amanda died in 1928 and were still there when Donella's father died in 1950. In 1930, Arthur was employed as a foreman in an auto factory.

Donella died July 22, 1963 in Grosse Point, Michigan near Detroit. From the American Social Security Index, Arthur was living in Wayne, Michigan when he died on May 26, 1988.

Samuel Lawrence Linder – 1903-1957
Bertha Seliger – 1897-1959

Samuel Lawrence Linder was born in Elmira on June 30, 1903. He was the sixth child of Samuel Linder and Maria Eich. Marriage Sam married Bertha Seliger on February 20, 1922 in Kitchener. They had two children, a son Donald and a daughter Fay.

Sam Linder Jr 1903-1957 and Bertha Linder 1897-1959

Deaths

The obituary of Samuel Lawrence Linder (Samuel Jr.) was composed by someone with an eye to detail for the genealogist. It was published in the Kitchener-Waterloo Record on Saturday May 18, 1957, page 5:

Samuel L. Linder     Samuel Lawrence Linder, 53, of 54 Sydney St. North, died at his home early today after a five-month illness.     A foot specialist here for 20 years, he was born in Elmira June 30, 1903, a son of the late Samuel Linder and Maria Eich. Mr. Linder was a member of the Twin City lodge, AF and AM, 509, and of the Royal City Lodge of Perfection.     He was also a member of Olivet Evangelical United Brethren Church.     Surviving are his wife, the former Bertha Seliger, whom he married Feb. 20, 1922 in Kitchener; a son, Donald of Kitchener; a daughter, Mrs. Edward (Fay) Karges of Kitchener; three brothers, Theodore of Mount Forest, Vernon of Montreal and Roland of Kitchener; two step-brothers, Reginald and Douglas of Kitchener; a sister, Donella of Detroit; and a step-sister, Mrs. Grenville (Marie) Taylor-Munro of North Pelham, Ont.     Four grandchildren also survive.     Funeral services will be conducted at the Keffer Funeral Home Tuesday at 2:30 p.m. by Rev. E. E. Pletch. Burial will be in Woodland Cemetery.     A Masonic service will be conducted Monday at 7:30 p.m. at the funeral home by the Twin City Lodge. The body is resting at the funeral home.

Like her husband before her, the wife of Samuel Linder Jr knew how to attract informative writers for her obituary. In the K-W Record on Thursday March 12, 1959 (page 5):

Mrs. Bertha Linder     Mrs. Bertha Linder, 61 of 49 Sydney St. North, died Thursday at K-W Hospital after a lengthy illness. Born July 19, 1897, in Germany, she was a daughter of the late Herman and Augusta Seliger. She came to Kitchener from Germany in 1914. She was a member of Olivet Evangelical United Brethren Church and the Eastern Star.     Surviving are a son, Donald, of Kitchener; a daughter, Mrs. Edward (Fay) Karges of Kitchener; a brother, John of Kitchener; four grandchildren. Her husband, Samuel, whom she married Feb. 21, 1922 in Kitchener, died May 18, 1957.     The body is at the Keffer Funeral Home where funeral services will be conducted Monday. Rev. E.E. Pletch will officiate. Burial will be in Woodland Cemetery. Coming to Berlin, Ont at the outbreak of WW I would make a very interesting story in itself.

LINDER SAMUEL DIED MAY 18, 1957 IN HIS 54TH YEAR BERTHA DIED MAR. 12, 1969 IN HER 61ST YEAR Woodland Cemetery, Kitchener

Cecil Linder – 1905-1918

Death

In 1918 an influenza epidemic caused hundreds of deaths in Kitchener-Waterloo. The death of Cecil Linder is correctly reported in the Ontario Vital Statistics, #040-697 for 1918:

     Name:       Lindner, Cecil
     Sex:        Male
     Age:        13 yrs, 8 mos
     Died:       Oct 14/[19]18
     Born:       Milverton, Ont
     Place:      183 Ahrens St. W., [Kitchener]
     Burial:     Mt Hope Cemetery, [Kitchener]
                 Single
     Occ:        Child
     Father:     Chas. Linder
     Mother:     Maria Eick
     Cause:      Pneumonia
     Physician:  L.A. Pequegnat &
                 H.M. Lackner
     Undertaker: A. Edwards, Kitchener
     Reg'd:      Oct 14/[19]18
     ------------------
     Physician's Return
     Name:       Lindner, Cecil
     Date:       Oct 14/[19]18
     Cause:      Influenza, 1 week
     Immediate:  Pneumonia, 2 days
     Physician:  L.A. Pequegnat
                 19 Weber St. W., [Kitchener]
                 Oct 14/[19]18

• The father's name is incorrectly given as "Charles". Cecil has a younger brother Charles who would die five days later from the same influenza virus.

However The Daily Telegraph on Wednesday October 16, 1918 (page 5) and The Kitchener News Record printed the following:

MORE VICTIMS OF PNEUMONIA ----- HENRY K. LINDER     At the age of 26 years death claimed Henry K. Linder son of Mr. Sam Linder, 183 West Ahrens Street. The deceased who was born in Waterloo died on Saturday from heart failure.

CECIL 1905-1918 on backside of parents headstone

• Both papers report the name of 'Henry K.' rather than 'Cecil'.
• And both papers give an age of 26 rather than the correct age of 13.
• The error is repeated by the Telegraph when brother Charles dies within the week, but the Record does get it right then.

Charles Linder – 1908-1918

Death

Younger brother Charles Linder died shortly after his older brother Cecil. The Ontario Vital Statistics for 1918, #040-736, give some details:

     Name:       Lindner, Charles
     Sex:        Male
     Age:        10 years
     Died:       Oct 19/[19]18
     Born:       Milverton, Ont
     Place:      Isolation Hospital
     Burial:     Mt Hope Cemetery, [Kitchener]
                 Single
     Occ:        Child
     Father:     Samuel Linder
     Mother:     Maria Eick
     Cause:      Influenza
     Physician:  J. McGillawee
     Undertaker: A. Edwards, Kitchener
     Reg'd:      Oct 19/[19]18
     ------------------
     Physician's Return
     Name:       Lindner, Charles
     Date:       Oct 19/[19]18
     Cause:      Influenza, 1 week
     Immediate:  Pneumonia, 3 days
     Physician:  J. McGillawee,
                 76 King St. W., [Kitchener]
                 Oct 19/[19]18

Two brief obituaries were printed when Charles Linder passed away in 1918 in the influenza epidemic of that year. The shorter (and less accurate) was printed in The Daily Telegraph on Saturday October 19, 1918, page 6:

PNEUMONIA CASES PROVE FATAL Number of Young People     Succumb to Disease Dur-     ing Last 24 Hours. ----- CHARLES LINDNER.     Charles Lindner, the ten year old son of Samuel Lindner, 183 Ahrens street, west, died of peumonia last night. This is the second fatality in the family this week. Harry K. Lindner, aged 26 years, having died early this week.

• The Telegraph misspell the name of Lindner.
• They repeat the error of brother Harry from earlier in the week.

The second obituary comes to us from The Kitchener News Record. On the same day, Saturday October 1, 1918, page 1:

----- CHARLES LINDER -----     Charles, the ten-year-old son of Mr. Sam Linder, 183 West Ahren Street, died at 7.30 o'clock today after an illness of ten days with influenza and pneumonia. This is the second time death has called at the home during the past week, for on Monday last Cecil, aged thirteen years, also was called home. Besides the brief-stricken father, two sisters and two brothers (one in France) survive.     The funeral will take place on Monday afternoon from the home to Mr. Hope Cemetery.

CHARLES 1908-1918 on backside of parents headstone

• The Record spells the name of Linder correctly.
• They also correctly identified the brother that had died earlier in the week as 'Cecil', aged thirteen, rather than 'Harry/Henry', aged 26 years.

Roland Leslie Linder – 1911-1978
Violet Dippel – 1908-1999

Roland Leslie Linder was born on July 29, 1911 in Milverton. He was the nineth and last child of Samuel Linder and Maria Eich.

Marriage

Roland married Violet Dipple, daughter of Henry Dippel and Hannah Hertel, on August 27, 1935 in Waterloo. The couple had no known children.

Deaths

Roland Leslie Linder died at age 66 on January 27, 1978. His obituary was published in the Kitchener-Waterloo Record on Saturday January 28, 1978, page 33:

LINDER, Roland L. -- At K-W Hospital on Friday, January 27, 1978, after a lengthy illness, Roland Leslie Linder, of 27 Herlan Ave., Kitchener, aged 66 years. A member of St. Peter's Lutheran Church. Had been employed by Bauer Industries Ltd. for 34 years, until his retirement in 1977.     Husband of the former Violet Dippel; brother of Douglas and Reginald, both of Kitchener. Predeceased by his parents, five brothers and three sisters.     Friends may call at the Ratz-Bechtel Funeral Home, 621 King St. W., Kitchener, where the funeral and committal service will be held on Monday at 2 p.m. with Rev. Eric Reble officiating. Interment will be in Woodland cemetery.     Donations to the Canadian Cancer Society may be made as expressions of sympathy.

The headstone of Roland and Violet at Woodland Cemetery, Kitchener, contains:

LINDER ROLAND JULY 29, 1922 JAN. 27, 1978   VIOLET NOV. 27, 1908 NOV. 26, 1999 GOD IS LOVE

Roland's wife Violet Dippel died more than twenty years later at age 90 on November 26, 1999. Her obituary appeared in the Kitchener-Waterloo Record on Wednesday December 1, 1999 on page B4:

LINDER, Violet (nee Dippel) -- passed away, at her residence, Sunnyside Home, on Friday, Nov. 26, 1999, age 90 years.     Born November 27, 1908, she was the beloved wife of the late Roland Linder, who predeceased her in 1978. Survived by her sister, Gertrude Henderson of Kitchener and many nieces and nephews.     Predeceased by her parents, Henry Dippel (1939) and the former Hannah Hertel (1950); her brothers, Wilfred Dippel (1986) and Harold Dippel (1979); her sisters, Laura Schmidt (1980), Edna Farrow (1999), Thelma Sims (1979), Bernice Seip (1986) and Marion Becker (1976).     Violet worked for 53 years at Kaufman Rubber. She was a member of St. Peter's Lutheran Church.     Friends and relatives may call at the Ratz-Bechtel Funeral Home, 621 King St. W., Kitchener on Thursday from 2-4 and 7-9 p.m. The funeral service will be held in the Ratz-Bechtel Chapel on Friday at 1 p.m., Rev. Frank Haggarty officiating. Interment Woodland Cemetery.     Reception to follow in the Ratz-Bechtel Family Centre.     Memorial donations to the Alzheimer Society, St. Peter's Lutheran Church or Sunnyside Home would be appreciated as expressions of sympathy.

The Children of Samuel Linder and Mary Thom

Samuel Linder's second wife, Mary Thom, had nine children with her first husband William Musclow and another four with Sam.

Rear L-R: Ken Musclow, Harold Musclow, Gertrude Musclow, Doug Linder, Lil Musclow, May Musclow, Bill Musclow, Reg Linder, In Front: Ruby Musclow and Fred Musclow Missing: Marie Linder, Deceased: Jack Musclow -- at Ken Musclow's country school house (date unknown)